that is, we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a real stickler for passing all my budgets on time, and -- but in 2005 we didn't, and i had to veto what they did, and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they'd do in the '94 elections, and then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them, they didn't want the government shut down, they just wanted to keep bringing the deficit down. so after the two government shutdowns in late '95 and early '96, then we began this compromise process everybody talks about. there has been no such action forcing event so far. that's what the election is. mark my words, if president obama wins this election, and i think he will, i really do believe he'll win, there will be a lame duck session of congress, they will avoid the fiscal cliff, they will either pass a multi-year budget then or agree to conditions to keep the government going while they work on the budget in the next couple of months after the election, and you will see a much higher leve